Corrected: One HOCNA Parishes Leaves, Another Divides with Priest Leaving

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Corrected: One HOCNA Parishes Leaves, Another Divides with Priest Leaving

For a full timeline of the events in HOCNA click here.

Correction: it was originally stated that the entire parish of St Anna’s departed for HOTCA. This is incorrect. Fr John Fleser has left HOCNA as well as a number of the parishoners; however, it is unclear whether he has joined HOTCA or RTOC. We will follow up with this.

(Boston) as NFTU stated earlier in an earlier story, HOCNA is down to six priested parishes, with two more sharing a priest. While the number appeared to be eight, we had early word that the pastor of St Anna’s Orthodox Church of Roslindale and St John the Russian Orthodox Church of Ipswich have left the HOCNA. The Church of St John the Russian in Ipswich has been received by the GOC-Kallinikos Synod in America (HOTCA).

NFTU received confirmation of the receptions last week; however, because of the Hurricane we did not discuss it.

We will continue to keep our readers apprised of the situation as it changes.

  • disqus_VqawXNX00z

    that is a lie. st anna’s did not leave. father john fleser left, but most of the parishoners did not. in fact, fr john didn’t leave for the GOC, but Tikhon!

    • NFTU

      I just checked with my source. I will double check this myself and correct the article accordingly. I don’t like mistakes.

      That said, unless there was massive growth since the time I was there 11 years ago, St Anna’s didn’t have 10% as many people as St Mark’s (and that’s a very liberal estimate) so without the priest it isn’t much more than a reader mission that will be run by the monastery.

      In Christ,
      Deacon Joseph Suaiden
      St Eulalia Orthodox Mission Chapel, Yonkers NY:
      *A Mission of the Orthodox Metropolia in North America*
      *Autonomous Orthodox Metropolia of North and South America and the British Isles*
      *
      *
      “Let these canonical rules be established by us for you, O ye bishops; and if you continue to observe them, ye shall be saved, and shall have peace; but if you be disobedient, you shall be punished, and have everlasting war one with another, and undergo a penalty suitable to your disobedience.” *–Epilogue to the Apostolic Constitutions
      *

    • Ambrose

      What do you people need to wake up? Honestly! Fr John Fleser left. Fr Michael Azkoul left. Fr Christos left. Bishop Demetrius left. 80% of your synod left. This doesn’t alarm you? This doesn’t make you pause to think even for a moment? In reality, the people who actually “left” Orthodoxy are in HOCNA.

      • Stan Ihoria

        Ambrose, how far back do you want to do with your list of departing clergy? How about the three former Deans of the Synod in Fr Constantine, Fr. Peter, and Fr George K, how about every parish on the east coast except St Anna’s? There is no “wake up” for some as they are exactly where they want to be. If it was about faith, then they would have left too. Sadly it’s hero/people worship. They have proven over and over that no matter what, they choose people over faith, period.

        • The sad fact is that most of the loyal crowd in HOCNA are name worshippers. Just who’s name is my question.

          • Ted

            well said.

  • Stan Ihoria

    It would certainly be a surprise to me to hear St Anna’s has left, I just expected that half the parish would go next door leaving a handful of people there with HOCNA for the time being. Equally as surprising to hear Fr John lhas joined the Tikhon Synod. By all accounts, he was at St Marks, but I can’t confirm that.

    • My source at St. Anna’s states that Fr. John Fleser is at St. Mark’s

      • Stan Ihoria

        Thats great to hear John, do you know if he’s serving yet? Has he been received?

        • Ambrose

          I heard the same thing John! We can only hope!

      • Ted

        He is officially there as of Sunday.

  • Yiorgos Panayiotou

    You are writing untruths and posting them as facts. I am a parishioner of St Anna Orthodox Church. John Fleser chose to leave. We have a priest and our parish is NOT divided. We would appreciate that you do fact-checking before you post lies.

    You are not Orthodox Christian because a Christian would not post hate and lies but love their neighbor. By law, you are also setting yourselves up for a huge libel suit and defamation of character.

    • NFTU

      “John Fleser”?

      You don’t even have enough Bishops to depose him properly. And I know the standard line ‘people leave the church, and so the church is never divided’.
      Are you telling me every single member of St Anna’s stayed? Because I am pretty sure that’s not true…. and if it isn’t, you’re committing the slander you accuse me of.

      I may be a poor Orthodox Christian, and you may be right about my lack of love for neighbor, but unlike your leaders, I am not a heretic. I’ve not been willing to grant that all that’s left of HOCNA are now name-worshippers.

      But if that’s true, then you are in no position to say I am not Orthodox.
      In Christ,
      Deacon Joseph Suaiden
      St Eulalia Orthodox Mission Chapel, Yonkers NY:
      *A Mission of the Orthodox Metropolia in North America*
      *Autonomous Orthodox Metropolia of North and South America and the British Isles*
      *
      *
      “Let these canonical rules be established by us for you, O ye bishops; and if you continue to observe them, ye shall be saved, and shall have peace; but if you be disobedient, you shall be punished, and have everlasting war one with another, and undergo a penalty suitable to your disobedience.” *–Epilogue to the Apostolic Constitutions
      *

      • Who has stayed with HOCNA? St. Anna’s, Three Pillars, Holy Wisdom in Catlett, VA, and St. Nectarios on the West Coast. HTM’s at half steam with more probably leaving.

        • NFTU

          Not even all of St Amna’s….

        • Ted

          The young priest left as well as a couple families.

    • John Collis

      Yiorgos:
      At least Boston lawyers won’t be experiencing any recession:
      1 – Defamation of character and libel lawsuits;
      2 – Property rights and eviction lawsuits; and,
      3 – Sexual molestation and compensation lawsuits.
      Huzzah! to North Americans’ favorite sport – suing!
      Cheers,
      John Collis

      • Stan Ihoria

        John, HTM has a long history of using the courts! But remember, they never started it!

        • Anonymous

          I’ve read about HTM suing Archbishop Gregory. You wrote that they have a long history of using the courts. What else have they used the courts for against fellow Christians?

        • We know they use the courts, but their financial backing, I would imagine may start to dry up. Litigation is an expensive and draining business.

    • The V’s are out, Fr. Yakov is out with his family.

      • Ambrose

        Which V’s are out? The family with four daughters and one son?

  • Jason

    Is the Pillars of Orthodoxy parish in Carlisle, PA hanging on?

    • Stan Ihoria

      We will see I suppose, I only know that Fr Christos P is out but can’t confirm that for sure. It’s a matter of time!

      • Ted

        He is out. The others are hirelings;
        John 10:11-13 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. (KJV)
        They have been known to be more like Caterpillars rather then Pillars over the years.

        • Ambrose

          He is definitely out! I heard he was received at Holy Ascension this weekend!

          • Stan Ihoria

            That’s great news! is it true that he may start over with a considerable following? If so, may it be blessed!

          • Ambrose

            I’m not sure, but I’ve been told that he has been serving at his house for a couple of months and had ceased commemorating Metropolitan Ephraim during this time!

          • Stan Ihoria

            Great to hear! Better to see him at Holy Ascension.