Dialogue on Darwinism by Vladimir Moss

October 15 (Source: http://www.orthodoxchristianbooks.com)

Between a True Believer and an “Orthodox” Darwinist


Orthodox Darwinist (OD). My friend, do you mind if I ask you a direct question?

True Believer (TB): Go ahead.

  1. Why do you not believe in science?
  2. What makes you think that? Don’t you know that I have two scientific degrees, and have published scientific papers in recognized peer-reviewed journals?
  3. I know, but you don’t believe in Darwinism…
  4. And so? Does one have to believe in Darwinism in order to believe in science?
  5. Yes, because it is accepted by the establishment in all scientific disciplines.
  6. Since when does conformity with the establishment constitute the criterion of truth and science?
  7. OD. The great majority believes in Darwinism. Perhaps not as big a majority as you think. In the United States alone there are thousands of Ph.D. scientists who have openly confessed to not believing in Darwinism. And I believe there are thousands more who do not believe in it but who do not say so for fear of losing their jobs. In any case, where would science be if we all followed the majority? Are not the great discoveries made precisely by those who are prepared to think “outside the box”? Was Einstein in the majority when he proposed his theory of relativity?
  8. No, but when he provided experimental proof for his theory, everybody followed him.
  9. Well, we’re still waiting for the experimental proof of Darwinism. And one has to say: it’s been a very long time coming… Oh, and by the way, Einstein remained in a minority to the end of his life.
  10. How so?
  11. He never accepted Niel Bohr’s interpretation of quantum mechanics, which the majority of physicists now accept. So if Einstein can remain in a minority on fundamental issues of physics, and yet remain honoured as one of the great geniuses of science, why should the large and increasing minority of scientists from various disciplines who reject Darwinism not be accorded the title of “scientists”?
  12. Are you talking about the creationists? But they’re just Protestant fundamentalists!
  13. Some of them call themselves creationists, some do not. As for many of them being Protestants, why should that disqualify them from being scientists?
  14. But we are both Orthodox. We must not be influenced by Protestant ways of thinking.
  15. So Protestant scientists are no good, but atheist ones are okay?! But is it really worse to be a Protestant than an atheist?! Was not Darwin himself a Protestant Anglican?
  16. Alright, I take your point. But modern Protestants have fundamentalist ideas about the seven days of creation, etc., that we as Orthodox reject.
  17. Do we? I agree that we as Orthodox should avoid heterodox ways of thinking. But before we can say that such-and-such a teaching is “Protestant” or “fundamentalist”, and not Orthodox, we need first to establish what the Holy Fathers of the Orthodox Church said about the subject.

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